{"id":2560,"date":"2014-03-12T20:59:37","date_gmt":"2014-03-12T20:59:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/?p=2560"},"modified":"2014-09-12T18:38:52","modified_gmt":"2014-09-12T18:38:52","slug":"dunlin-deer-and-denny","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/dunlin-deer-and-denny\/","title":{"rendered":"Dunlin, Deer . . . and Denny"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Updated 3 April<a href=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2all.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2602\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/dunlin-deer-and-denny\/img_1715-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2all.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"640,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;6.3&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS 600D&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1396450113&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;18&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.01&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;IMG_1715&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_1715\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2all-300x234.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2all.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2602\" src=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2all.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_1715\" width=\"640\" height=\"500\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2all.jpg 640w, https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2all-300x234.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2all-384x300.jpg 384w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>On the face of it you would not expect to see dunlin and roe deer together but that is what greeted me this morning.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2allb.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2606\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/dunlin-deer-and-denny\/img_1715-3\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2allb.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"640,413\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;6.3&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS 600D&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1396450113&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;18&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.01&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;IMG_1715&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_1715\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2allb-300x193.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2allb.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2606\" src=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2allb.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_1715\" width=\"640\" height=\"413\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2allb.jpg 640w, https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2allb-300x193.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2allb-464x300.jpg 464w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>There were two deer, a doe and a young buck, by the water&#8217;s edge in front of Denny Island with hundreds of dunlin flying behind them. I was downwind of them but feeling very conspicuous standing out in the middle of the marsh and expected to be spotted at any moment.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2b1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2603\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/dunlin-deer-and-denny\/img_1717\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2b1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"555,640\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;6.3&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS 600D&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1396450118&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;37&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.01&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;IMG_1717&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_1717\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2b1-260x300.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2b1.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2603\" src=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2b1.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_1717\" width=\"555\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2b1.jpg 555w, https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2b1-260x300.jpg 260w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 555px) 100vw, 555px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The young buck looked past me towards the docks.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2c.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2604\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/dunlin-deer-and-denny\/img_1718-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2c.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"640,363\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;5.6&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS 600D&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1396450121&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;33&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.01&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;IMG_1718&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_1718\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2c-300x170.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2c.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2604\" src=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2c.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_1718\" width=\"640\" height=\"363\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2c.jpg 640w, https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2c-300x170.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer2c-500x283.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>A handful of dunlin &#8211; there were hundreds here this morning.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1_1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2569\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/dunlin-deer-and-denny\/img_0802-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1_1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"640,490\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;5&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS 600D&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1394383423&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;18&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0166666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;IMG_0802&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_0802\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1_1-300x229.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1_1.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2569\" src=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1_1.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_0802\" width=\"640\" height=\"490\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1_1.jpg 640w, https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1_1-300x229.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1_1-391x300.jpg 391w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>To my surprise there were 2 more deer a few hundred yards further down the marsh. . .\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1a.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2564\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/dunlin-deer-and-denny\/img_0804\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1a.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"640,435\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;5&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS 600D&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1394383432&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;41&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;125&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0125&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;IMG_0804&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_0804\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1a-300x203.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1a.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2564\" src=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1a.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_0804\" width=\"640\" height=\"435\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1a.jpg 640w, https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1a-300x203.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1a-441x300.jpg 441w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>. . . \u00a0a more mature buck with a \u00a0yearling doe. I recognised this group of four from a previous visit.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1c.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2565\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/dunlin-deer-and-denny\/img_0805\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1c.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"640,379\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;5&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS 600D&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1394383435&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;41&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;125&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0166666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;IMG_0805&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_0805\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1c-300x177.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1c.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2565\" src=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1c.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_0805\" width=\"640\" height=\"379\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1c.jpg 640w, https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1c-300x177.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1c-500x296.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Both bucks were sporting velvet covered antlers.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1b.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2566\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/dunlin-deer-and-denny\/img_0807\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1b.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"534,640\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;5&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS 600D&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1394383441&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;25&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0166666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;IMG_0807&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_0807\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1b-250x300.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1b.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2566\" src=\"http:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1b.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_0807\" width=\"534\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1b.jpg 534w, https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/dunlindeer1b-250x300.jpg 250w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 534px) 100vw, 534px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It was great to watch the deer but even more enthralling when accompanied by the aerobatics of hundreds of dunlin &#8211; a very special sight in front of the Firefly navigation buoy.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Updated 3 April On the face of it you would not expect to see dunlin and roe deer together but that is what greeted me this morning. There were two deer, a doe and a young buck, by the water&#8217;s edge in front of Denny Island with hundreds of dunlin flying behind them. I was [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2606,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3,24,34,50],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-2560","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-saltmarsh_birds","8":"category-waders","9":"category-mammals","10":"category-winter","11":"grid-item","12":"grid-item-landscape","14":"fallback-thumbnail"},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Dunlin, Deer . . . and Denny - Hilary Kington - just my sketches<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/ukwildlifeart.co.uk\/saltmarsh_art_blog\/dunlin-deer-and-denny\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_GB\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Dunlin, Deer . . . and Denny - Hilary Kington - just my sketches\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Updated 3 April On the face of it you would not expect to see dunlin and roe deer together but that is what greeted me this morning. 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